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Wednesday, July 1, 2009

Britain has 85 sharia courts: The astonishing spread of the Islamic justice behind closed doors

In spite of so many flaks that the Shariah is getting from liberal muslims across the world, it is still being practiced and accepted in Britain.

Britain has 85 sharia courts: The astonishing spread of the Islamic justice behind closed doors PDF Print E-mail
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Tuesday, 30 June 2009 02:36

The Daily Mail

At least 85 Islamic sharia courts are operating in Britain, a study claimed yesterday. The astonishing figure is 17 times higher than previously accepted.

The tribunals, working mainly from mosques, settle financial and family disputes according to religious principles. They lay down judgments which can be given full legal status if approved in national law courts.

sharia law meeting

Disputes: Islamic leaders rule on disagreements

However, they operate behind doors that are closed to independent observers and their decisions are likely to be unfair to women and backed by intimidation, a report by independent think-tank Civitas said.

Commentators on the influence of sharia law often count only the five courts in London, Manchester, Bradford, Birmingham and Nuneaton that are run by the Muslim Arbitration Tribunal, a body whose rulings are enforced through the state courts under the 1996 Arbitration Act.

But the study by academic and Islamic specialist Denis MacEoin estimates there are at least 85 working tribunals.

The spread of sharia law has become increasingly controversial since its role was backed last year by Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams and Lord Phillips, the Lord Chief Justice who stepped down last October.

Dr Williams said a recognised role for sharia law seemed 'unavoidable' and Lord Phillips said there was no reason why decisions made on sharia principles should not be recognised by the national courts.

But the Civitas report said the principles on which sharia courts work are indicated by the fatwas - religious decrees - set out on websites run by British mosques.

The Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams

Controversial comments: Dr Rowan Williams said a recognised role for sharia law seemed 'unavoidable'

Mr MacEoin said: 'Among the rulings we find some that advise illegal actions and others that transgress human rights standards as applied by British courts.'

Examples set out in his study include a ruling that no Muslim woman may marry a non-Muslim man unless he converts to Islam and that any children of a woman who does should be taken from her until she marries a Muslim.

Further rulings, according to the report, approve polygamous marriage and enforce a woman's duty to have sex with her husband on his demand.

The report added: 'The fact that so many sharia rulings in Britain relate to cases concerning divorce and custody of children is of particular concern, as women are not equal in sharia law, and sharia contains no specific commitment to the best interests of the child that is fundamental to family law in the UK.

'Under sharia, a male child belongs to the father after the age of seven, regardless of circumstances.'

It said: 'Sharia courts operating in Britain may be handing down rulings that are inappropriate to this country because they are linked to elements in Islamic law that are seriously out of step with trends in Western legislation.'

The study pointed out that the House of Lords ruled in a child custody case last year that the sharia rules on the matter were 'arbitrary and discriminatory'.

And a 2003 judgment of the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg said it was 'difficult to declare one's respect for democracy and human rights while at the same time supporting a regime based on sharia, which clearly diverges from Convention values.'

However last year Justice Minister Bridget Prentice told MPs that 'if, in a family dispute ...the parties to a judgment in a sharia council wish to have this recognised by English authorities, they are at liberty to draft a consent order embodying the terms of the agreement and submit it to an English court.

'This allows judges to scrutinise it to ensure it complies with English legal tenets.'

Decisions from sharia tribunals can be presented to a family court judge for approval with no more detail than is necessary to complete a two page

form. The sharia courts in the Muslim Arbitration Tribunal are recognised as courts under the Arbitration Act. This law, which covers Jewish Beth Din courts, gives legal powers to a tribunal if all parties involved accept its authority.

The Civitas study said the Islamic courts should no longer be recognised under British law.

Its director Dr David Green said: 'The reality is that for many Muslims, sharia courts are in practice part of an institutionalised atmosphere of intimidation, backed by the ultimate sanction of a death threat.'

The Muslim Council in Britain condemned the study for ' stirring up hatred'.

A spokesman said: 'Sharia councils are perfectly legitimate. There is no evidence they are intimidating or discriminatory against women. The system is purely voluntary so if people don't like it they can go elsewhere.'

Patrick Mercer, Tory MP for Newark and chairman of the Commons counter-terrorism sub committee, said: 'We have an established law of the land and a judiciary. Anything that operates otside that system must be viewed with great caution.

'If crimes are going unreported to police, this will erode the authority of those who have to enforce our law. In a sovereign state there must be one law, and one law only.'

Philip Davies, Tory MP for Shipley, said: 'Everyone should be deeply concerned about the extent of these courts.

'They do entrench division in society, and do nothing to entrench integration or community cohesion. It leads to a segregated society.

'There should be one law, and that should be British law. We can't have a situation where people can choose which system of law they follow and which they do not.

'We can't have a situation where people choose the system of law which they feel gives them the best outcome. Everyone should equal under one law.'

Veteran Tory Lord Tebbit provoked anger among Muslims earlier this month by comparing Islamic sharia courts to gangsters.

He likened the tribunals to the 'system of arbitration of disputes that was run by the Kray brothers'.

Lord Tebbit told the Lords: 'Are you not aware that there is extreme pressure put upon vulnerable women to go through a form of arbitration that results in them being virtually precluded from access to British law?'

Warning that women could be shut out from the protection of the law, he asked Justice Minister Lord Bach: 'That is a difficult matter, I know, but how do you think we can help those who are put in that position?'
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30 comments:

Anonymous said...

Excuse me, before you get to big in your head; listen here good! The so-called Islamic courts in the UK apply in secret! Yes, can you imagine - such cowards! But they do not dare to practise unust or unequal law as the normal Sharia 'law' since they can be sued in court in the UK, including the EU Court of Huamn Rights. And now, human rights groups are trying to fight to have the Sharia Law banned - the fight is not over yet! But you see, you know why the Sharia Court was able to be constructed - because the Islamists there exploit the universal human righst, yeah, to practise freely their culture! This is the only time the usually primitive Dark Age Islamists love human rights! You know what; why don't you fight for the true Islam that is really just and kind; not primitive Dark-age Arabic-led and taleban style justice! Starting with not forcing young girls to wear the stupid primitive Arabic veil!

Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza Othman - An APOSTATE; thank you Christ!),
Germany.

Anonymous said...

Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza Othman - An APOSTATE; thank you Christ!),
Germany.

Ya da ya da bla bla bla whateverrrrrrrrrrrrr

Rozana said...

Human right?!
In certain law such in US, when you produce loud music or bad smell that disturbing the mental & mental state of people around, you're bound to be sued.
Then, when a women wearing very seductive and provocative cloth, she is disturbing others' emotion and nafs state of young men and even others' husbands. Worst, when a wolf (serial rapist) is around.

sam raspiut said...

i admit this is great post ever..

its shown great qualities of UKs muslim society to practise muslim in what ever conditions against them..
that proved islamic value can stand proudly in the hands of great quality muslim follower.

also proved that islamic law practice never ever abuse human rights or women rights, because the practise completly under pure voluntary to whom really obey the god, rather then peoples or girls who just name by father islamic name but know nothing about be muslim or muslimah!

also that, proved that provoked by UKs laws or an apostated cristiant like katharina sri did nothing to strongly bealieve of UKs muslim society. The truth of islam will shine over the collapse of oriental value.. just matter of time!

so, a big question for the malaysian 'jemaah', is it done enough for muslims and Islam? just enough with umno syariah?
bole la.. while tunggu the coming PRU? bole laaa..

Anonymous said...

Rozana said..."Human right?!
In certain law such in US, when you produce loud music or bad smell that disturbing the mental & mental state of people around, you're bound to be sued.
Then, when a women wearing very seductive and provocative cloth, she is disturbing others' emotion and nafs state of young men and even others' husbands. Worst, when a wolf (serial rapist) is around."

It's pathetic that woemn like you are scorning human rights! Because of universal human rights you get to go to school, instead of being beheaded like in Taleban-land! And thanks to human rights, that these Islamist get to have their own Sharia court - but I can't wait to see them being sued one fine day, for crossing the line! And so you think women who wear the veil haven't been raped and murdered like so many in Malaysia? You live in la-la land or something! And pathetic that you a woman would blame another woman for being raped or murdered - what if it happens to you or your daughter?

Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza Othman - An APOSTATE; thank you Christ!),
Germany.

Anonymous said...

Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza Othman - An APOSTATE; thank you Christ!),
Germany.
bla bla bla again you suck!

Rozana said...

Hi Kat,
What do you feel when you find out that:-
1. your own daughter having sex with boyfriend in your own house.
2. your own daughter just wearing bra and panties walk along a street in the night.
3. your own daughter having very hot french kiss in crowded place.
4. your own son watching porno in living room.
All acts above are indeed human right for own yourself.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza Othman - An APOSTATE; thank you Christ!),
Germany.
bla bla bla again you suck!

You cowardly hide behind your anonymous name, what a joke! Islamist have always been coward anyway - bombing innocent people, including in mosques like in Iraq and Pakistan! You must be a moron - those are the only words you know!

Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza Othman - An APOSTATE; thank you Christ!),
Germany.

Anonymous said...

July 1, 2009 8:39 PM
Blogger Rozana said...

"Hi Kat,
What do you feel when you find out that:-
1. your own daughter having sex with boyfriend in your own house.
2. your own daughter just wearing bra and panties walk along a street in the night.
3. your own daughter having very hot french kiss in crowded place.
4. your own son watching porno in living room.
All acts above are indeed human right for own yourself."

Hey Roz, but don't forget, I aint' your buddy - my friends are all intelligent beings!

What a joke! Is that the only kind of debate you can come out with? I bet all those yaers of schooling at madreassa msut be only teaching you taht women are only good enough to be sex-slaves to Islamist men! They cannot think for themselves - that even if they are raped or murdered, they have only themselves to be blamed! And teh Islamist men go on laughing back in their caves! Get a real life - one not obsessed by sex, and a real intelligent education!

Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza Othman - An APOSTATE; thank you Christ!),
Germany.

Rozana said...

1. Yes, muslim women are 'sex-slave' to their husband. Your women are sex-slut to their 'husbands'.
2. Yes, muslim men are obsessed to sex, why are allowed to have more than one wife for this crazy-drive. Your men are sexually 'weak', that why you all need legal brothel, playboy network, dildo, vibrator etc..

Anonymous said...

Rozana said..." 1. Yes, muslim women are 'sex-slave' to their husband. Your women are sex-slut to their 'husbands'.
2. Yes, muslim men are obsessed to sex, why are allowed to have more than one wife for this crazy-drive. Your men are sexually 'weak', that why you all need legal brothel, playboy network, dildo, vibrator etc.."

I'd rather be a sex-slut to my husband than a sex slave! What a joke; that you even support your husband fucking four women at one time - is that what Islam is about?! Did you know that the last bride of Mohammed, Aisha, is a child bride of 9 years old- so what did that make Mohammed? A pedophile maybe? Sick primitive Arabic culture!

Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza Othman - An APOSTATE; thank you Christ!),
Germany.

Anonymous said...

Please sign a petition against Sharia Law! If you love justice that is, especially for women and girls!
At - http://www.onelawforall.org.uk/

Sharia law is discriminatory and unjust, particularly against women and children.

Sharia courts in Britain are a quick and cheap route to injustice and do nothing to promote minority rights and social cohesion.

Their voluntary nature is a sham as many women will be pressured into going to these courts and abiding by their decisions.

Those who fail to make use of Sharia law or seek to opt out will be made to feel guilty and can be treated as apostates and outcasts.

One Law for All Campaign against Sharia Law in Britain's International Women's Day was a resounding success March 10, 2009

Read the declaration (PDF List of prominent signatories

To mark Universal Children's Day and International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women
SHOW YOUR OPPOSITION TO SHARIA LAW AND ALL RELIGIOUS-BASED TRIBUNALS IN BRITAIN, IRAN, IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, PAKISTAN, SOMALIA AND ELSEWHERE
DEMAND AN END TO CULTURAL RELATIVISM AND RACISM
DEMAND ONE SECULAR LAW AND UNIVERSAL RIGHTS
DEFEND THE RIGHT TO ASYLUM FOR THOSE WHO HAVE FLED SHARIA
Saturday 21 November 2009 afternoon
Central London Rally (location to be announced)

Confirmed Speakers include Nazanin Afshin-Jam, Mina Ahadi, Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, Roy Brown, AC Grayling, Rahila Gupta, Johann Hari, Marieme Helie-Lucas, Cllr Mehboob Khan, Houzan Mahmoud, Maryam Namazie, Taslima Nasrin, David Pollock, Fariborz Pooya, Terry Sanderson, Issam Shukri, Sohaila Sharifi, Bahram Soroush, Peter Tatchell... There will be a comedy act by Nick Doody and much more.

For more information, contact:
BM Box 2387
London WC1N 3XX, UK
Tel: +44 (0) 7719166731
onelawforall@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

Sorry! Forgot to put my name! Honestly and bravely!

Please sign a petition against Sharia Law! If you love justice that is, especially for women and girls!
At - http://www.onelawforall.org.uk/

Sharia law is discriminatory and unjust, particularly against women and children.

Sharia courts in Britain are a quick and cheap route to injustice and do nothing to promote minority rights and social cohesion.

Their voluntary nature is a sham as many women will be pressured into going to these courts and abiding by their decisions.

Those who fail to make use of Sharia law or seek to opt out will be made to feel guilty and can be treated as apostates and outcasts.

One Law for All Campaign against Sharia Law in Britain's International Women's Day was a resounding success March 10, 2009

Read the declaration (PDF List of prominent signatories

To mark Universal Children's Day and International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women
SHOW YOUR OPPOSITION TO SHARIA LAW AND ALL RELIGIOUS-BASED TRIBUNALS IN BRITAIN, IRAN, IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, PAKISTAN, SOMALIA AND ELSEWHERE
DEMAND AN END TO CULTURAL RELATIVISM AND RACISM
DEMAND ONE SECULAR LAW AND UNIVERSAL RIGHTS
DEFEND THE RIGHT TO ASYLUM FOR THOSE WHO HAVE FLED SHARIA
Saturday 21 November 2009 afternoon
Central London Rally (location to be announced)

Confirmed Speakers include Nazanin Afshin-Jam, Mina Ahadi, Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, Roy Brown, AC Grayling, Rahila Gupta, Johann Hari, Marieme Helie-Lucas, Cllr Mehboob Khan, Houzan Mahmoud, Maryam Namazie, Taslima Nasrin, David Pollock, Fariborz Pooya, Terry Sanderson, Issam Shukri, Sohaila Sharifi, Bahram Soroush, Peter Tatchell... There will be a comedy act by Nick Doody and much more.

For more information, contact:
BM Box 2387
London WC1N 3XX, UK
Tel: +44 (0) 7719166731
onelawforall@gmail.com

July 1, 2009 10:34 PM

Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza Othman - An APOSTATE; thank you Christ!),
Germany.

Rozana said...

Okay...my bedtime. My husband is with my 'madu'. Gosh, otherwise with 'geisha' at Pattaya.
have a nice day.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Rozana said..."
Okay...my bedtime. My husband is with my 'madu'. Gosh, otherwise with 'geisha' at Pattaya.
have a nice day."

I don't have pity on you - women like you who support oppression on other women! Whilst those men, including your husband, can have sex with many women like bloody devouring devils! Fortunately, my partner, despite being a westerner and a Christian, thank to Christ, does not need a 'madu' or 'madus'(er, how many legitimized' sex-slaves actually allowed in Islam?)nor some sex-slut in Pattaya! He only desires me as his sex slut; and I also desire him EQUALLY as my sex slut, but FREE sex sluts of course, not sex-slaves, due to our dignity and intelligence! C'est la vie!

Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza Othman - An APOSTATE; thank you Christ!),
Germany.

long jack johny said...

hi, dear katrina sri,

i'd like your idea about human rights and freedom..
could you publish your email address?

then maybe i will contact and visit you and hubby for having a sex party..
it really really a great pleasure to me having sexs with you and i could fuck your hubby also... no worry with your permission nobody will sue us, its freedom of human right is'nt it?

please and please, i mean it!!


Long jack johny

Anonymous said...

my human rights say that i can call Katharina Sri a hooker. It's freedom of expression, and I think it's okay to call people things like that. Do not force your values on me saying that it's immoral to call Katharina Sri a hooker.

Sorry she's actually not a hooker, she'll bent for free.

Anonymous said...

It's also within my rights to call Katharina's husband an animal fucker, well, because he actually fucks one on daily basis.

It's my rights to say that. My values taught me it's okay to say that. Don't force yours on me.

Anonymous said...

It's also within my rights to call Katharina's husband an animal fucker, well, because he actually fucks one on daily basis.

It's my rights to say that. My values taught me it's okay to say that. Don't force yours on me.

Tulang Besi said...

Katrina Sri reflects the trouble with liberal thinking. The thinking that everybody else is wrong and only they are right.

She is against patriachy, yet very few Muslim women complaints against patriachy.

She is against polygamy, but she is pro adultery.

She is against Shariah because it's against Human rights, but then again, all laws in Shariah is subject to due process. So, where is the contradiction?

Katrina represents nothing but contradictions.

People like her are what we have come to know as Uncle Toms

Anonymous said...

Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza Othman - An APOSTATE; thank you Christ!),
Germany.
again bla bla bla and you are full of shit.

Bravo Rozana.

Anonymous said...

He only desires me as his sex slut; and I also desire him EQUALLY as my sex slut, but FREE sex sluts of course, not sex-slaves, due to our dignity and intelligence! C'est la vie!

Ye ke? katarina. Saya harap awok sedar le apa yang awak cakap ni. Awok ni dah memang sesat. Mudah- mudahan Allah memberi hidayah pada diri awok. Awok ni having sex with your husband who is a westener atau your partner? Kenapa awok bangga sangat berzina kalau awok having sex with your partner aje. Awok tak tahu ke agama christian juga tidak membenarkan penzinaan. MasyAllah! Awok ni lebih hina dari binatang rupanya.

Rozana said...

In spirit of human right, a woman is free to have sex with anybody without limit (no such thing called 'zina'). Then, what a man will feel when he is going to marry that woman who being drilled and screwed anonymous guys before. Otherwise, the holy matrimony is nothing for them.

mozart said...

ala, i don't think katrina sri is who she claimed she is. Nor azza othman? for real? Hehe. Apostate? She definitely not malay as the spelling for madrasah pun eja lain. Race aside, Btw katrina, ru sure your partner' is only slutting for you? You and only you? For all you know, he has an id in menslut.com or worst manjam.com. or frontandback.com..hehe

But again, what can you do, he can slut all he wants. It is his basic human right. U can never go wrong with human rights. No way i tell you.

aku said...

katarina sri,
u are really a damn stupid asshole!! u never learn and in fact knows nothing about Islamic teaching!!! FUCK U!!!! WHAT A PATHETIC WHORE!!!

datuk batu bara said...

this katarina claim she's a christian. really? she don't even know how bible treating women.

bible forbind adultary. bible said women is akin to devil.

she's a fraud.

Anonymous said...

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)

ermm..Katharina Sri..Thank you again Christ???

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." (I Corinthians 14:34-35)

Mm..have u ever heard Prophet Mohamad ordering women not to talk in masjid?

Wow..its a shame to christian women to speak in churces arent they??

"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. "(I Timothy 2:11-14)

Well..in christianity..men wasdeceived by women..thats why women had to suffer in child bearing..

"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." (I Corinthians 11:8-9)

Remember that Katharina..that is what ur lord said...

Saul

Anoinimuz said...

kat..
MIOW....

Anonymous said...

Diam terus si katarina. Tak pe insyAllah dia dah insaf!

MENJ said...

I wonder whether this "Katharina Sri" person is genuine or not? I did a Google search for this person's name and this troll has been appearing on many Malaysian blogs for some reason. Strange for someone who claims to be an apostate to disclose her "Muslim name" publicly, in my past encounter with apostates they will do their outmost to conceal their identity.

As for her "thank you, Christ" remark, we would like to remind her that her so-called "Christ" (actually not Isa a.s. himself but some half-naked Jewish criminal swinging from a Roman cross) cannot even save himself from death and even cried "Eli eli lama sabachtani" for help, so how can one expect her "Christ" to save them and thank that "Christ" for it? Indeed, Christianity is such a stupid religion that it is not even worth considering by the sane mind.

- MENJ

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