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Wednesday, August 12, 2009

Of Hasan Ali, Tony Pua and Pakatan Rakyat Way of Dealing with Sensitive Issues

The reason for me writing this piece is to clarify a few issues that I fail to clarify in my earlier writings:

1.0 Dato Hasan Ali’s Press Statement: I strongly detest Dato’ Hasan’s call for Ronnie Liu to be sacked and replaced by someone else. I think what Hasan Ali is doing is wrong and simply rude and disrespectful of Ronnie Liu. I mean, when Hasan Ali was busy going up and down the country campaigning for UMNO, Ronnie Liu had his head bashed with a club by an FRU personell in Taman Aman for trying to stop the FRU from driving the poor Taman Aman folks out of their homes and into the streets. So, what business does Dato Hasan has to call for Ronnie’s sacking.

2.0 The MBSA ruling is not even Dato Hasan’s initiative: The entire MBSA ruling was made by Pakatan Rakyat leaders at Shah Alam level. And the MBSA ruling was agreed upon by all Pakatan Rakyat reps in MBSA. The issue was discussed and it was agreed upon in a full MBSA Council meeting. Hasan Ali was just there for the ride.

In truth, the MBSA ruling is the initiative of Pro Pakatan Rakyat leaders in PAS who believes that they can negotiate and discuss with their non-muslim coalition partners in the implementation of Islamic laws in Selangor.

Unlike UMNO who just bulldozes everything without caring for the sensitivity of the non muslims. And it was proven that the MBSA ruling was supported by all MBSA councilors, be it that they are Muslim or not. Remember, 40% of MBSA councilors are non muslims.

3.0 Shah Alam Pakatan Leaders Should be Lauded: If any, the Shah Alam Pakatan Rakyat should be commended because they dare to discuss sensitive issues in the open and reach an amicable compromise.

Hasan Ali, on the other hand, has not triggered the discussion at the Selangor level causing the problem we just saw. If any, the problem that happened is Hasan Ali’s fault because he failed to trigger discussions on sensitive issues behind closed doors. As a result, sensitive issues like this is discussed out in the open.

In other words, this whole shenanigan could have been avoided if sensitive issues like this were discussed behind closed door a long time ago. Does Hasan Ali expect Keadilan to raise the sensitive issues such as this?

4.0 Hasan Ali is Pro UMNO: It’s no secret that Hasan Ali is the pro UMNO element in PAS. He was actively campaigning for PAS to join UMNO and form a Kerajaan Perpaduan Melayu in Selangor. He had met with UMNO leaders so many times. He is not a Pakatan Leader. He is an UMNO leader disguised as a Pakatan leader. So we should not be surprise each time he comes up with tricks like this. He’s only interested to break Pakatan Rakyat up and sabotage the Selangor government. I don’t know why Hasan Ali is still in PAS and has not joined UMNO.

Why do u think SYABAS can put up banners at the recent PAS Muktamar? ISn’t Syabas an UMNO instrument and at loggerheads with the Selangor MB? Who do u think represent Syabas’s interest in the Selangor EXCO?

5.0 Tony Pua: He needs to get himself aquainted with Malaysian laws as soon as possible. What is agreed upon by the MBSA full council automatically becomes a by-law.

6.0 DAP Leader’s Sincerity: I have no doubt in the sincerity. I have no doubt in the sincerity of Ronnie Liu, Tan Seng Giau, Lim Guan Eng, Teresa Kok, Fong Poh Kuan, Betty Chiew and many more. I mean these people were being hauled inside and outside of Kamunting when Hasan Ali was busy campaigning for UMNO.

But, it’s the new stock of DAP leaders that still need to prove themselves. I mean, Jeff Oii has shown us that u take Jeff Oii out of Gerakan but you cannot take the Gerakan out of Jeff Oii.

Jed Yoong has maintained unequivocally that Tony Pua is an MCA mole. These people have yet to prove themselves

7.0 MBSA Law Does Not Undermine Minority Rights: That’s right. It’s because liquor can still be sold but in Chinese restaurants in the vicinity. This would mean bumper crop business for the local Chinese restaurants

Tulang Besi

31 comments:

Anonymous said...

I urge all visitors to this site just to read and not comment anymore regarding to beer ban in Selangor.

It is clear now, Tulang Besi has changed and wanted to instigate voters to swing back to BN.

He no longer the PR supporter. In previous article, he even apologized for be non-stop critical to PR, but today he still harping on beer ban issue.

Tulang Besi, stop sensationalizing this beer issue over blogs. I notice your poisonous-to-PR posting in other blogs as well.

Don't follow rockybru style.

Anonymous said...

But, it’s the new stock of DAP leaders that still need to prove themselves. I mean, Jeff Oii has shown us that u take Jeff Oii out of Gerakan but you cannot take the Gerakan out of Jeff Oii.

Jed Yoong has maintained unequivocally that Tony Pua is an MCA mole. These people have yet to prove themselves
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Bro ,u forgot to mention YB Phee Boon Poh,and YB LIm Hock Seng,2 of DAP's most down to earth,humble aduns..Jeff OOi..kahkahkah..dia tu geng RPKlah..u know..hotak tak berapa pandai tapi nak act techie..kahkahkah..but Tony PUa is lil bit mysterious..

Anonymous said...

rockybru tu dari dulu sampai sekarang certified bum..bro tulang besi is trying to clear certain sensitive issues..that's all

Tulang Besi said...

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

rockybru tu dari dulu sampai sekarang certified bum..bro tulang besi is trying to clear certain sensitive issues..that's all
.

ROcky Bru is a born loser

Anonymous said...

TB, berapa ko dibayar ronnie liu untuk menjadi kafir???

Jed Yoong said...

Bro!
"Jed Yoong has maintained unequivocally that Tony Pua is an MCA mole. These people have yet to prove themselves."
Oi! Check with me-lah jed.yoong@gmail.com.
From his actions, it seems like he is more interested in attacking PAS/Islam than working with them. Which is why I suspect he MAY BE an MCA mole. Also consider the support by Ze Bintang/Star.
Bro, after all that I've "suffered" for tt article I translated.... ;-) But I translated it on my own volition!
Jangan-lah buat kejutan macam ni!

Tulang Besi said...

Jed yoong,

I been wondering where you've been Jed.

Welcome back.

Actually, i should clarify my statement.

Jed Yoong never accuse Tony as being an MCA agent.

She SUSPECTS. But, i've read it too many times of it being mentioned that i thought we've past the suspect phase.

Anyways, tq for the clarification

camcamni said...

PR national leaders should sit down and get some punishments done on these leaders who had tarnished the good name pf their respective parties.

For a start, a suspension of 3-6 months should be handed down to Hassan Ali, Wee Choo Keong, Azmin Ali, Jeff Ooi for their stupid outburst and trying to be an instant hero.

These people dont want to come to their senses that they won their respective seats due to support from all races and not only from Malays for Hassan Ali, Zukifli Nordin and Azmin Ali and not only Chinese votes for Wee Choo Keong and Jeff Ooi.

Until today, no disciplinary actions have been taken against these people and thats why they have became more and more brave but stupid with their antics. The same goes to DAP Penang too on the Nibong Tebal chairman agst the ADUN of Jawi. The issue ended but no action taken against the Teh.

PR has no balls to act?

Tulang Besi said...


For a start, a suspension of 3-6 months should be handed down to Hassan Ali, Wee Choo Keong, Azmin Ali, Jeff Ooi for their stupid outburst and trying to be an instant hero.
.

I couldn't agree more

TB Bodoh said...

As usual,another rubbish posting by Tulang Lembik..

I wonder how much are u being paid by DAP to lick their ass..

Stupid MUSLIM

Anonymous said...

I will always remember TB for making Jed Yoong's live miserable..

Because of his posting about Perak royalty,Jed Yoong yg kena interrogate dgn police..

Tahniah Tulang Besi aka Rahman Celcom..Simply stupid

Tulang Besi said...

August 12, 2009 5:34 PM
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will always remember TB for making Jed Yoong's live miserable..

Because of his posting about Perak royalty,Jed Yoong yg kena interrogate dgn police..

Tahniah Tulang Besi aka Rahman Celcom..Simply stupid

August 12, 2009 5:36 PM
.

So, the police who nit pick people to question is blameless?

Penarik Beca copied and pasted the entire article from RPK and because of that he was questioned by the police.

So, RPK is also bad?

Tulang Besi said...

Anon August 12, 2009 5:36 PM,

You seriously need a shrink.

Anak Perelih said...

SYABAS is owned by Puncak Niaga and KDEB... The one that is playing tarik tali with Selangor State Gov is Puncak Niaga, not Syabas... Syabas is the one yang direbut...

Tulang Besi said...


Bro, after all that I've "suffered" for tt article I translated.... ;-) But I translated it on my own volition!


jed Yoong,

I am sorry that my article caused you so much grief.

I really didn't know that you were incacerated and questioned by the police.

I never really intended for anyone to be harmed by my article.

All i wanted was to air my views.

Tulang Besi said...

Sorry, Puncak Niaga. But currently, Puncak Niaga owns Syabas, so Syabas is essentially Puncak Niaga as well

amoker said...

wei, come on la. DAP is not about market people on the street fighting with fist. Jeff makes mistake like you and me. I like Tony for his moderation and both of them will learn more.

telur dua said...

The way things are going on in PR, UMNO's job is made much easier.

Maybe PR have a death wish and just want to do themselves in.

Anonymous said...

TB, tulislah tentang selesema A,

kenapa pesakit mati beramai-ramai?

Kajilah kelemahan pencegahan and tanggungjawab kementerian kesihatan

Anonymous said...

The funny part of all this is that Tulang Besi sent in his application to be the CEO/GM of Konsortium Jaringan Selangor Sdn (the company which manages the telecommunication towers and structures (towers) in the State of Selangor) to Dr. Hasan Ali right after PR won the 2008 election.

Is he in a war path with Dr. Hasan Ali because he did not get the post?

Jed Yoong said...

It was ok. It's over now. Good + Bad. All fated.

I was not incarcerated, just interrogated 3 times, while my siblings (20 - sis, 17 - bro) were interrogated once but it went very smoothly. My desktop CPU, laptop, and modems were also seized from my family home. My photo portfolio from 2006 (when Anwar first returned to politics) is now with the police along with other work that I had owed clients, eg. photos that I had taken of events.

The police allegedly said they had interrogated you too initially then in last interview and another time that I saw the IO, he actually asked me who you are. I, of course, don't know.

They should really target you as your blog is much more popular. But the UMNO goons, Big Dog et al, didn't want to, I guess.

Anyway, the whole thing is probably some pretext to do a background check on me. The IO seem to think I am a PKR activist/blogger. The police is so OUT....

Dark said...

Anyone who has watched closely Tony Pua's MO in DAP or simply anyone who knows him well, would strongly agree with Jed Yoong that he is the MCA mole to bankrupt DAP with his childish financial scheme. He doesn't practise CAT at all, in fact he's a rat.

Anonymous said...

Malaysiabaru.com said,

tahniah Abe Tulang Besi, u have spoken out the truth. nothing but the truth.

All the event hapening in Selangor is being sabotaged by this ruthless idiot Dato Dr Hassan Ali.

Selangort is going bankrupt in few more months becos this one idiot who claims to be PAS leader, has sabotage every single EXCO meeting chaired by the MB!

Not a single exco decision can be made in Selangor because this UMNO kroni has protest every single decision in every exco meeting. Not a single business has been decided at THE Selangor Exco level! due to this umno kroni protest!

So in months to come without any exco decisions, that is agreed upon by all exco members, SELANGOR WILL GO BANKRUPT!

BELEIVE ME.

WWW.MALAYSIABARU.COM

Tulang Besi said...

I was not incarcerated, just interrogated 3 times, while my siblings (20 - sis, 17 - bro) were interrogated once but it went very smoothly. My desktop CPU, laptop, and modems were also seized from my family home. My photo portfolio from 2006 (when Anwar first returned to politics) is now with the police along with other work that I had owed clients, eg. photos that I had taken of events..

Still, i feel very bad about what happened to you.

The world is missing your direct and point-blank style in writing. It is a sad loss to the blogging world.

how can anyone make you a victim like this?

The BN was in a panic mode. After the coup de tat in Perak, the Palace credibility is seriously undermined.

So, they had to find people to victimized.

You happened to be one of their victims.

Tulang Besi said...

TB, tulislah tentang selesema A,

kenapa pesakit mati beramai-ramai?

Kajilah kelemahan pencegahan and tanggungjawab kementerian kesihatan

August 12, 2009 7:42 PM
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

The funny part of all this is that Tulang Besi sent in his application to be the CEO/GM of Konsortium Jaringan Selangor Sdn (the company which manages the telecommunication towers and structures (towers) in the State of Selangor) to Dr. Hasan Ali right after PR won the 2008 election.

Is he in a war path with Dr. Hasan Ali because he did not get the post?
.

No, I sent the resume when i thought that Hasan Ali was good.

It was long before i started my blog.

And long before i knew about the UMNO-PAS axis.

I was willing to take a 50% pay cut for that job, for your information.

Anonymous said...

Tulang Besi,

You said you sent the resume long before you started your blog. So, before you thought you could get the job to be CEO/GM of Konsortium Jaringan Selangor, there was no need to start a blog to hentam Hasan Ali. But since you did not get the job, then you started this blog. Sounds like a sore loser to me.

You said you were willing to take a 50% pay cut for that job. Well, that showed you were not qualified for that position and hoped that Hasan Ali will return the favor for your help in his 2004 election campaign(which of course he lost with your help). In this competitive world, if a really qualified person who offers his/her services for half the money, he/she will definitely get the job.

tony's fren said...

Hi TB

I know Tony personally and talked to him about all the working relationships within PR even way before the previous GE. i can vouch for Tony that he is not a mole of MCA. He maybe making statements against what Hassan Ali has done but with the objective of seeing a better PR and not crumbling.

Jed Yoong, she lives in her own world thinking too much. she should have made an effort to get to know tony and talk to him before concluding that he MIGHT be a mole.

But i do agree with many things you have written but not on the portion where Tony is some sort of a politician who have not behaved himself. hassan ali, in my opinion is too much. what tony has done is to request hassan to be disciplined based on what he has done and not arbitrarily to whack PAS.

If Tony is a mole and proven, I will personally offer my maid service to TB for 3 months.

Those who accused Tony wants to see a weaker DAP, and thus a weaker PR. The only group who wants to destroy DAP is no more than UMNO itself.

Anonymous said...

helo tulang besi,u dunno anything about politics. u just made ur own assumption based what reported in media either PR or BN. Why not u put ur shoes in gov so let see what really happen in selangor state goverment. U only do ur observation rather than put ur self in the government itsel. If u still giving comment such ways,u not really truly Malaysian. U statement could bring chaos in Malaysia harmonious society. What a loser u r.I believe u a bastard coward. I dare u to press statement tru mass media rather use this medium to condemn n see what will happen to u..

Anonymous said...

Teresa Kok bogel.. khalid suka, dia x suruh teresa stop pun.. aiyO!!!

Anonymous said...

Nampaknya Tulang Besi gemar menabur fitnah yang tak henti-henti pada Dr. Hassan Ali. Dr. Hassan Ali adalah orang yang dipercayai oleh President untuk memimpin Selangor. Tuduhan-tuduhan kesat beliau secara langsung mencabar keputusan presiden. Mana Al-wala'.

Anonymous said...

Wah Malaysia Waves, you listen to Jed Yoong so much ah? Why ah? She the lalang lah, swing between working for DAP specifically Tony Pua, then go suck up to Wong Chun Wai then live in Kelantan and wax lyrical about PAS... hmmm.... she a good writer though, shame about her inclinations and slightly-schizo personality.

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