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Friday, October 23, 2009

Explanation from a Prima Damansara Resident on the Khalwat Raid Squad

Suddenly the issue of “Anti Khalwat Squad” is popularized by the media, and of course in a negative manner. The report can be read here. (http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/28035/84/#jc_writeComment)And again we see the so call women’s group protesting any effort towards enforcing religious values and eradicating vice and sinful acts. It’s the trend around the world that Women’s Rights Groups are the number one champions of immorality and indecency. Anytime any one tries to do something decent, the women’s group will come to the forefront and resist. I remembered in Turkey when the government tried to pass a law outlawing adultery, it was the Turkish women’s group that came to the forefront resisting the law.

Yet, the anti khalwat group (and the adultery law in Turkey) doesn’t discriminate against gender. I mean, it takes two to tango. If you do it alone, then it’s not called khalwat, it’s called masturbation.

Below is a quotation from a resident of Prima Damanasara name budaktapah that is taken from Malaysiatoday. Hope we can share the information he gives and form a balanced opinion on the issue.

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Start of budaktapah comments:

written by budaktapah, October 23, 2009 15:39:09
heyyyy...i live there!! sorry that i was not around that weekend. If not, i will gladly joint the khalwat group.

to others, please don't bla bla bla, please don't intefere, unless you are living there, unless you are a muslim. If not, please fcuk off.

you are talking about the Muslim are trying to impose Islamic rules upon other non-muslim. But whaat about you all non-muslim directly or indirectly are imposing your free lifestyle, your free mingling, your free huha huha among males & females and called it modern-lifestyles. We muslim have compromise a lot, and still you all trying to say like, let them do what they like, let them have free life style, let them fcuk each other and have babies whom we do not know who the father are, let them be drunk and drive a car in the middle of the night and hit my bikes and my neighbour car (this actually happened infront of my unit), let them be drunk and rempit-ing in the middle of the night.

Well no more guys. One thing i like living in Prima Damansara is because the area is quite safe. The residents there almost know each other and care about each other and we will protect our area and not letting it became seriously "infested" with bad things, only then we act. How confident you all to allow some youngsters to "berkhalwat" in the middle of the night, and might eventually leads to some naughty behaviour, then some poor lady will become pregnant, she will become scared, give birth then throw the baby into some drain some where.

Islam is not about letting things to happen first only then will act, Islam is about prevention.

I'm not going to let somebody do whatever they like in my area. If you wish to be like that and say, hey its my house, i pay for it, well please think again cause you are living in an area where others also live. Unless you are staying some where in a jungle all alone, only thennn you can do whatever you like.

i am damned mad if you all say that i cannot look after my place, my area. Since the beginning we have our set of conduct to follow, be it in Islam, Hindu, Christian etc. Please do not confuse people by saying what was previously bad, but nowadays is ok to follow, like maybe in the 50s, 60s or 70s, showing your bras is considered obscene, but nowadays is normal.

I like to watch chinese kungfu movies, whereas during some scene the actress was strip off their dress and only left with her undergarment dress (something corset like dress) the actress will act to be very very ashamed and will tried to cover herself frantically. but hey, nowadays we all can see the ladies even not ashamed to wear those kind of undergarment-like dresses to offices, to markets, to movies. BUT does we the muslim say anything about it? no we do not, we act as if its your right to wear like that. So please do not say that we the muslim do not compromise.

Buttt, when we tried to protect our communities, tried to shield our son, daughters, our brothers and sisters, all hell break loose.

Do you know that in Prima Damansara we manage to counter a lot of bad things from happening. Glue sniffing children, rempit-ing, bohsia, penyamun, penyangak. We manage to minimise these things. We are not "Taliban", we are just protecting ourself.

So we all must improvise and not start banging everybody because what we the residents there are doing are just what we thought are right to do.

Your advise are most welcome, but if you all start to comment with the intention to condemn, please go away.

23 comments:

Haris said...

How did people eating durian turn into "glue sniffing children, rempit-ing, bohsia, penyamun, penyangak"?

And since when is home invasion and assault alright? Vigilantism is illegal but what these people did is not even that. It's just plain thuggery.

Tulang Besi said...


And since when is home invasion and assault alright? Vigilantism is illegal but what these people did is not even that. It's just plain thuggery.
.

They are investigating, not invading

Haris said...

Must have been some "investigation".

Tulang Besi said...

True, people who commits wrongdoings usually use the police to cover them up

Anonymous said...

Bodoh is still bodoh, How to progress yourself if you are too busy minding other peoples' business, another tale of morons trying to impose their their will on others. WHO, UNDER WHICH LAW IN THE CONSTITUTION OF MALAYSIA DOES IT GIVE ANY PEEPING TOM SQUADS TO START RAIDING OR TRESSPASS OF PROPERTY? Join lah the police if you looking for power morons. FOLLOW THE LAW, NOT AN IMAGINARY LAW WHICH IS SUBJECT TO YOUR OWN INTERPERATION. But than again what do you expect from fools.

Anonymous said...

shall i say our society now a days are a confused lot,maybe tensions from work,relationship,monthly installment/bills etc.. me understand your action,thuggery or not to protect own families and neighborhood from harm is OK

Anonymous said...

thank GOD i'm a NON-muslim !

Anonymous said...

Who the fcuk elected you as the moral guardian? What about your moral standings you think you are perfect? And how long before you overstep your boundaries and start imposing your rights on to the other non-believers. You don't believe me then go live in Saudi Arabia or the most of the middle east countries, you think they let the other religions do as the wish? People like you have too much time on your hands learn to live without NEP and you will know what I mean.

Anonymous said...

This happens wheyou give power to labourers who then act like policemen only in bodohland can this happen.

Anonymous said...

Mualims are so weak they need to be 'peeped' by so called moral guards.
If their kids are thought well we will not have new bornes thrown away and sooo...many drug addicts who are Malay muslims. Why not these guards protect them . The drug addiction is more common in Muslim youth. Is it because the Koran does not incluse drugs as 'haram'?
So muslims can make heroin make a living (like in Afghanistan) and be come addicts and destroy not only themselves but also cause all kinds of civil disorder worst than drinking alcohol.
Go look around you and count how many alcoholics are stealing and sitting by the road begging without self dignity.
Religion teaches to live within certain conduct . Do not inter[ret religion so narrowly and become busy body.
Go catch the big guns doing khalwat , driniking, doing everything a human cannot do.
Why only come after poor fellows?
If you muslim want to live like 1000 years ago go to the cave-join the Talibans! You will be liberated!

Anonymous said...

This article is really nasty - what do you expect from savage Dark Age Arabic-aping Islamists! Who hate women/girls so much, that they just want to use women/girls to be their sexual slaves purely and forever; and just to shut up, as if these Islamist men are God and Islam belongs to them! So evil and sickening - excuse me, from what I have been reading in the news, most of the sex maniac rapists in Malaysia are Malay and other Muslim man, such as the Sudanese man who sodomized a three year old ggirl to death! And anyone can condemn injustice,so don't fuc**** tell non-Muslims to shut up! Further, read this most recent news on the savagery of fuc**** evil Muslim men, bloody sex maniacs these cavemen are as always! Sex-maniac Muslim men who are using Islam to whip and sexually violate (I would call it RAPE!) women who wear underwear!! What the heck?! And they called this Allah's command?

At - http://af.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idAFTRE59F1K420091016

Somali Islamists whip women for wearing bras
Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:35am GMT

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By Abdi Sheikh

MOGADISHU (Reuters) - Somalia's hardline Islamist group al Shabaab has publicly whipped women for wearing bras they say violate Islam by constituting a deception, north Mogadishu residents said Friday.
The insurgent group, which seeks to impose a strict form of sharia Islamic law throughout Somalia, amputated a foot and a hand each from two young men accused of robbery earlier this month. They have also banned movies, musical ringtones, dancing at wedding ceremonies and playing or watching soccer.

Residents said gunmen had been rounding up any woman seen with a firm bust and then had them publicly whipped by masked men. The women were then told to remove their bras and shake their breasts.
"Al shabaab forced us to wear their type of veil and now they order us to shake our breasts," a resident, Halima, told Reuters, adding that her daughters had been whipped Thursday.
"They first banned the former veil and introduced a hard fabric which stands stiffly on women's chests. They are now saying that breasts should be firm naturally, or just flat."
Officials of Al Shabaab, which Washington says is al Qaeda's proxy in the failed Horn of Africa state, declined to comment.

The group's hardline interpretation of Islamic law has shocked many Somalis, who are traditionally moderate Muslims. Some residents, however, give the insurgents credit for restoring order to the regions under their control.
Al Shabaab, which means "youth" in Arabic, control large swathes of south and central Somalia.
Abdullahi Hussein, a student in north Mogadishu, said his elder brother was thrown behind bars when he fought back a man who humiliated their sister by asking her to remove her bra.
"My brother was jailed after he wrestled with a man that had beaten my sister and forced her to remove her bra. He could not stand it," Hussein said.

Men were not spared the' moral cleansing'. Any man caught without a beard was been publicly whipped.
"I was beaten and my hair was cut off with a pair of scissors in the street," Hussein said.
"My trouser was also cut up to the knee. They accused me of shaving my beard but I am only 18. They have arrested dozens of men and women. You just find yourself being whipped by a masked man as soon as leave your house."

(Editing by Helen Nyambura-Mwaura)

Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza)

Germany.

Anonymous said...

Who the fcuk elected you as the moral guardian? What about your moral standings you think you are perfect? And how long before you overstep your boundaries and start imposing your rights on to the other non-believers..
It's moral to you but it's a felony to Islam.

This is what budak tapah meant, why are u trying to impose western values upon Muslims?

Tulang Besi said...

Kathrina

We all know how many times international news agencies have miscontrued and misinterpret incidences involving implementation of Islamic laws.

So, please stop quoting crap sources.

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This article is really nasty - what do you expect from savage Dark Age Arabic-aping Islamists! Who hate women/girls so much, that they just want to use women/girls to be their sexual slaves purely and forever; and just to shut up, as if these Islamist men are God and Islam belongs to them!
.

That's right, let us all support the liberal policies of the West that allows people of the same sex have sex with each other.

Also, in time they will also legalized sex with boys.

Tulang Besi said...

Kathrina,

First they legalize abortion, then free sex, the adultery, then homosexuality, then finally sex with boys.

Tulang Besi said...

Kathrina,

First they legalize abortion, then free sex, the adultery, then homosexuality, then finally sex with boys.

HangNadim said...

Fuih!! Sakit ati betul laa aku baca respons dari puak-puak non-muslim. Cakap macam orang tak dak akai. Kalau dah ada kes anak cina ke anak keling ke yang kena kidnap (macam ada satu kes anak cina yang kena kidnap, sampai sekarang tak jumpa) haaa .. baru padan muka dorang. Apa punya bodo laaa bangsat-bangsat ni punya respons. Macam sial!

Tulang besi ... aku rasa laa makbapak puak2 non-muslim ni kan tak rasa happa pun kalau anak-anak dorang kongkek depan dorang. Pastu keluarkan anak haram (tak properly register laaa) sebab dulupun aku rasa makbapak dorang pun macam tu jugak.

Aku rasa dorang punya paderi ka, tok sami hindu kaa tok sami buddha kaaa tak boleh nak wat happa dan tak leh nak cakap happa sebab dalam buku agama dorang pun tak tulih benda ni boleh kaa tak boleh kaaa jadik depa main sondol jer.

Yang makbapak pun tak kisah, anak lagi laa tak kisah. Yang celaka nya, dia nak respek cara hidup dorang. Dia kata orang islam hidup zaman kuno, puak2 non muslim ni tak perasan kaa depa tu hidup macam zaman batu? Kongkek selamba jer macam tak kisah kat orang lain?

Kalau nak harap makbapak puak2 non muslim pi nasihat anak-anak dorang dari buat kerja-kerja tak senonoh tu aku rasa not in a million years laa sebab dorang nampak benda tu "senonon" dan tak per. Isk Pelik betul laaa dorang ni. Abih semua benda? tak sihat tu depa pandang okeeeeey jer? Tamadun ke? Siap boleh berbangga pulak tu? Malaysia dah nak jadik macam negara Hong Kong?

Ko baca laaa komen dorang ... bahasa ... fuih, sikit punya baik ke? Aku rasa puak-puak macam ni elok di halau jer. Yang cina pi balik hong kong ... ko kongkek la kat sana sampai mampos. Yang keling suruh la dorang pi balik india ... kongkek kat sana dan tambahkan rakyat india yang sedia ramai tu.

P/S: Komen ni untuk non muslim yang yang guna bahasa kesat, maki hamun macam sial sahaja. Untuk non muslim yang baik2 tu ... aku mintak maaf sebab emosi betul aku baca komen kat atas tu.

Anonymous said...

Mesti best buat kerja skodeng ni... bunch of pervert.

There are many ways of preventing these...

Not waiting for these things to happen and nab!

Think!

Give you a clue.... root of cause...

Serious Shepherd said...

Cadangan kepada SIS, MCA dan yang sama waktu dengannya: Binalah 'love motel' di mana pasangan bercinta boleh buat tanpa ada gangguan dari Jais atau vigilantes serta dilindungi pengawal 24 jam. Anggota2 SIS dari anak-anak menteri tu bolehlah mintak Papa rasmikan 'love motel' tu bila pembinaannya dah siap.

Cadangan kepada skuad anti-khalwat:
Kumpulkan kondom yang 'baru lepas digunakan' dan campakkannya kepada muka2 pemimpin pertubuhan yang pejabatnya terletak di Jalan Dewan Bahasa. Kalau ada janin atau bayi yang dah mati, lagi best campak kat muka diaorang.

Anonymous said...

Hey Tulan Besi, so all the news, if western and criticizing or reporting on barbaric and savage practises under Sharia Law are lies? You are so pathetic - what is the point of your high education? So 9/11, Taleban killing girls going to schools, bloody dirty old men marrying young girls in Saudi, Malay and Muslim men in Malaysia are raping and murdering women like crazy, are all lies is it? I suggest you go and live in the caves with your Taleban buddies there: then you can have that choice of claiming such bloody nonsense!

And to your bloody Islamist hatred towards gays, get a life! Only God can judge anyone's personal lives! So, you're against homosexuality but hey it's ok for all those evil crimes committed by savage Muslim men is it? Pathetic!

Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza)

Germany.

Anonymous said...

Hey Serious Shepherd, your name but your Islamist support is intended to to degrade our christianity isn't it? Pathetic! And it seems like you only know how to use violence and are obsessed with SEX! Get a life!

Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza)

Germany.

Anonymous said...

Hey Hang Nadim, so it's ok for bloody Muslims to use nasty language to non-Muslims is it? Why are Muslims like you so obsessed with SEX? No wonder most of the rapists in Malaysia are Malay/Muslim men! Get a life!

Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza)

Germany.

Anonymous said...

'But whaat about you all non-muslim directly or indirectly are imposing your free lifestyle, your free mingling, your free huha huha among males & females and called it modern-lifestyles. We muslim have compromise a lot, and still you all trying to say like, let them do what they like, let them have free life style, let them fcuk each other and have babies whom we do not know who the father are, let them be drunk and drive a car in the middle of the night and hit my bikes and my neighbour car (this actually happened infront of my unit), let them be drunk and rempit-ing in the middle of the night.'
I have to ask you one simple question, Are you people so weak in your religeous beliefs, that you can be unduely influenced so easily, goes to show that your basic moral fibre is flawed. If it so easy to blame others for your own flaws, ok here is a solution, don't watch tv, unhook your internet, since you get a proverbial hard on looking at any women wearing a skirt- blind yourself, to prevent hearing music which you feel is satans work, use a sharp long needle and poke your eardrums out, better still go into a deep jungle and live in a cave so your morals cannot be influenced but wait a minute than how you going to get your free handouts from the nep which derives its income directly or indirectly from those focking kafirs paying their taxes from money earned in so called haram activities, like working in a pig farm, chinese restaurant serving pork, beer halls/ pubs/ hotels, money coming from gambling activities like 4D,toto, kuda. So macam mana, bolihkah. Thats what happens when you get labourers who are form 3 dropouts or even worse sekolah pondok mentality trying to inpose their kampung mentalities on city folks. If you find things so intolerable in the cities, I suggest for you to go back to the kampung lubang cacing where you crawled out from and go impose your views there. This is one of the setbacks of having the internet, when you have people with garbage for brains, who cannot adapt to realities of modern day living, reminising on an easier life from the past. Let me remind you during those dark ages you would be lucky if you survived to live up to 40, with all those incurable diseases. Hai yah wake up lah bodoh keldai, If not for modernisation you morons would still be swinging from trees.

Serious Shepherd said...

Makcik Katrina,

Itu pastor juga tak pergi serbu orang Kristen yg langgar 7th commandment in privacy. The end result: sebab tak cegah untuk disassociate, mereka pun buat tapi yang jadi mangsa ialah bebudak bawah jagaan diaorang. Bila google 'pastor sexual abuse' resultnya 454,000. Ingat imam tak buat ke? Ada/ Tukar pastor kepada imam, resultnya cuma 54,700. Kat mana? Tampa Bay, yang imamnya tak serbu orang berkhalwat.

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