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Saturday, January 30, 2010

Tulang Besi Tukar Pendirian: Zul Nordin ALAT UMNO

Benar. Tulang Besi mengubah pendirian dalam isu Zulkifli Nordin. Kalau sebelum ini Tulang Besi mengatakan dia adalah “Barua UMNO”. Sekarang Tulang Besi mengatakan beliau adalah “ALAT UMNO”

Beliau menjadi alat UMNO untuk memecah belahkan PAkatan Rakyat serta memecah-belahkan sesama parti PKR. (Rujuk artikel RPK di bawah)

Sememangnya dalam PAS sendiri cukup ramai orang yang telah memberitahu Tulang Besi betapa mereka tidak mempercayai Zulkifli Nordin.

Malahan, sewaktu kes Liwat Anwar 1, Tulang Besi dapat maklumat dari ahli keluarga Anwar Ibrahim bahawa banyak cerita yang diceritakan oleh Zul Nordin dalam ceramah-ceramah beliau adalah “auta” semata-mata. Antara contohnya kesah Anwar sewaktu terkena racun arsenik. Kononnya Anwar meletakkan kepala beliau di atas bahu Zul Nordin dan menangis. Rupa-rupanya cerita tu cerita auta. Tak caya pergilah tanya adik-beradik Anwar Ibrahim.

Beliau pusing kampung kononnya beliaulah juara dalam “Dream Team” Anwar. Kononnya Anwar Ibrahim begitu bergantung pada beliau. Maklumat yang saya dapat, semuanya auta semata-mata.

Kesah Ustaz Fadzil tak percaya pada Zul Nordin telah pun dikhabarkan oleh Penarik Beca. Dari segi saya pula, saya mendapat maklumat dari seorang pemimpin PAS Kawasan sendiri yang pernah rapat dengan Zul Noordin ini.

Pemimpin PAS Kawasan ini cukup rapat satu masa dahulu dengan Zul Noordin. Dan beliau adalah seorang yang berakhlak mulia serta menjaga solat. Pemimpin PAS KAwasan ini memberitahu saya dengan tiada ragu bahawa Zul Noordin ini adalah agen SB.
Bagaimana dia tahu, saya tak boleh cerita lah tapi cukup setakat itu.

Dan kita semua tahu betapa “desperate” UMNO untuk memecahbelahkan Pakatan Rakyat serta PAS. Isu kalimah Allah ini memang telah dirancang sejak awal 2009 ( rujuk pendedahan email Mahaguru58 yang saya buat). Mereka mahu menggunakan isu ini supaya PAS rasa tidak selesa dan akhirnya keluar Pakatan Rakyat.

Dan Zul Noordin yang tiada asas agama Islam ini cuba menunjukkan beliau lagi pandai dari Qardhawi telah melanggar semua etika dan tatasusila berjemaah dan berkawan. Beliau sanggup buat repot polis pada Khalid Samad di atas kenyataan Khalid yang diputar belit media.

Jelas sekali Zul ni adalah ALAT UMNO dan wajib Anwar Ibrahim menghalau beliau.Benar kata Raja Petra, Anwar Ibrahim takkan tak belajar dari peristiwa Saiful Bukhari. Saiful Bukhari dihantar UMNO semata-mata untuk menjadi agen mereka MEMFITNAH ANWAR.
Mengikut maklumat Raja Petra, Zul Nordin telah di “turn-over” sewaktu beliau ditahan ISA buat kali kedua. Malahan, saya dapat maklumat, Ezam Mat Nor juga telah di’turn-over” pada waktu itu. Sewaktu Ezam meringkuk dalam Penjara Kajang, galang ganti orang UMNO datang berjumpa dengan beliau. Ertinya di waktu dalam penjara Kajang lagi Ezam Mat Nor telah menyertai UMNO.

Hanya kerana seorang pemimpin tu lantang bersuara maki UMNO tidak bermakna mereka itu BUKAN ajen UMNO. Lihatlah betapa lancangnya mulut Ezam memaki UMNO. Tiba-tiba datang jilat balik ludah dia dahulu. Manusia yang tidak bermaruah dan tidak mengenang jasa.

Anwar WAJIB membuang sampah bernama Zulkifli Noordin dari PKR demi perpaduan serta kesatuan Pakatan Rakyat. Belajar lah dari peristiwa Saiful Bukhari.
Pendapat saya pula adalah UMNO telah sampai ke tahap “desperate”. Mereka terpaksa menggunakan KESEMUA agen mereka secara maksima sehingga Zul Noordin terpaksa menunjukkan “wajah” UMNO beliau yang sebenar.

Tulang Besi

ps Ramai tidak sedar bahawa Zulkifli Nordin ini memulakan karier politik beliau dengan menjadi Ahli UMNO Bahagian Bukit Bintang. Sama geng dengan Azalina Othman dan Hamid Albar

Now do you understand the word turncoat? (UPDATED with Chinese Translation)


Wednesday, 27 January 2010 Super Admin
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Is Anwar that naive or stupid that he cannot see the false façade that Zul is wearing on his face? I think Anwar may need to spend a second term in the Sungai Buloh Prison to wake him up to the reality of what is going on in the real world.

NO HOLDS BARRED

Raja Petra Kamarudin

The Member of Parliament for Kulim, Zulkifli Noordin, is keeping his options open. If and when his party sacks him then he will decide where he goes from there. Well, for sure, he will not be joining PAS because he is at war with PAS. That is why he always takes the opposite stand to that of PAS.

Zul’s personal feud with PAS actually goes back a long time, back to the time of the late PAS President, Ustaz Fadzil Noor. Ustaz Fadzil did not want to have anything to do with Zul. He would not touch Zul with a ten-foot pole.

There was one occasion when Ustaz Fadzil was on the way to an event and when he was told that Zul was also going to be there he told his driver to turn the car around and take him home. Ustaz Fadzil would try to avoid any event that Zul would be attending.

But why was Ustaz Fadzil so against Zul? Those who personally know Ustaz Fadzil would tell you that this is one very kind old man who carried no grudges. But why was he so ‘extreme’ when it came to Zul?

It is not that Ustaz Fadzil was taking it a bit too personal when it came to Zul. It is that Ustaz Fadzil did not trust Zul and felt that he was just a plant, a Trojan Horse, who should not be trusted further than you can throw him.

Zul is very ‘Islamic’. He is in fact even more Islamic than PAS, almost Taliban in attitude. So why did he not join PAS? Does he not want to join PAS?

It is not that he does not want to join PAS but more that PAS does not want him. And it is not because Zul is too Islamic even for PAS’s standards that the party does not want him. It is just that PAS does not trust him and suspects that there is more than meets the eye as far as Zul is concerned.

Don’t forget, in the Art of War you need ‘sleepers’. These are plants or Trojan Horses you send into the opposing camp to create damage from the inside. During the Cold War, the superpowers used sleepers a lot. Russia had scores of sleepers in the British government, some very high up the ranks.

And Umno too uses this very effective sleeper strategy. People are sent into the opposition camp as plants or Trojan Horses. They are in PAS. They are in DAP. And they are most certainly in PKR.

Do you know that back in 1999 one Special Branch officer became the head of one of the Parti Keadilan Nasional (PKN) branches? Yes, that’s right. A Special Branch officer was a PKN branch chairman and the party did not find out until much later. How much damage do you think he had done by the time they found out?

Do you know that some of the staff in the PKN headquarters back in the early years reported to the Special Branch? Their job was to print out the membership list and other documents and reports and pass them on to the Special Branch. Yes, but what they did not know is there are also Special Branch officers who report to me. So I was fully aware of the ‘black ops’ going on in the party headquarters.

After I detected the Special Branch agent, I used him to leak false information to Bukit Aman. This is called a ‘disinformation’ campaign. In a disinformation campaign you leak false information to confuse the enemy.

I then placed my son -- who is now in the Sungai Buloh Prison -- in the party secretariat and his job was to key in members’ details into the computers. But we had two membership lists. One showed only 20,000 members, which we left ‘exposed’ for the Special Branch agent to copy and pass on to Bukit Aman. Then we had the second list, which actually had 250,000 members, but which we kept hidden.

We did not allow even the party Supreme Council Members to see this list. This is because we did not trust our own Supreme Council Members and suspected some of them to be Special Branch agents as well.

The only two people allowed to sight this genuine membership list was the Secretary-general, Anuar Tahir, and the Deputy President, Dr Chandra Muzaffar. Even Dr Wan Azizah was only told how many ‘real’ members we had but she was not given any printout. And the Supreme Council, much to its chagrin, would not receive a membership report during the monthly Supreme Council meetings.

Can you imagine the difficulty we faced when we could not trust our own party leaders in the Supreme Council and had to hide information from them and mislead them because we were worried if we told them the truth then Bukit Aman would get this information within the hour?

And there are still many plants, spies, agents and Trojan Horses in the opposition, in particular in PKR. Anwar Ibrahim knows this. Dr Syed Husin Ali knows this. Dr Wan Azizah Ismail knows this. Zaid Ibrahim knows this. Azmin Ali knows this. Datuk Kamarul Bahrin knows this. Saifuddin Nasution knows this. Tian Chua knows this. R. Sivarasa knows this. In fact, every bleeding party leader knows this and they have known this from way back in 1999.

Do you know how good these agents are? One day, back in 2000 or so, they downloaded all the data from the party’s computers and short-circuited the computers after that. We came to office one morning and found that all ten computers had practically ‘melted’. It was definitely an inside job and we suspected who that person might be.

This particular guy sleeps in the office -- so in that sense he is the first one in and the last one out. One night, I too slept in the office, without him knowing of course, and I monitored the telephone switchboard. When I saw the light come on to show which extension was being used, I sneaked up and eavesdropped on the conversation. Yes, he was sending in his daily report.

From then on I used him to send Red Herrings to Bukit Aman. I still smile when I think of all that crap I was feeding the Malaysian intelligence agency that at one time in the 1950s was acclaimed as the best in the world, far superior to even the KGB and CIA.

In another incident, one Special Branch officer penetrated Ruslan Kassim’s office. Ruslan Kassim was then the party Information Chief. I suspected he was Special Branch because during the ‘Arsenic Demonstration’ in the National Mosque (Masjid Negara) he wore a pink wristband. (Stupid isn’t it?)

I grabbed him by the arm and tugged at his wristband and asked him, “Ini apa?” He replied, “Takde apa. Saja.”

From that day on I kept an eye on him and one day he came to my office and asked whether he could leave his bag in my room for an hour or so as he needed to run out for lunch.

“No problem,” I replied, but as soon as he left I searched his bag and found a tape recorder. And it was running on record mode.

I then made many phone calls and spoke to ‘phantoms’ on the other end. I engaged in all sorts of conversations with imaginary people. And of course, in my ‘conversation’, I ‘revealed’ a lot of party secrets.

This chap came back after lunch to collect his bag and till today I still wonder how useful Bukit Aman found all those ‘secrets’ that were recorded.

Back in 1999, during the Tenth General Election, we had to ‘sweep’ the operations room a few times every day. And it was mind-boggling the number of ‘bugs’ that were discovered. How did they plant these bugs if not for the fact that it were insiders who were doing it -- because for sure outsiders and police officers could never get past the front door, let alone all the way up to the tenth floor. And we are not talking about lower level insiders, mind you. They were not allowed into the operations room. We are talking about high-level insiders, top party leaders, those with ‘security clearance’.

Anyway, I am rambling. But the point I want to make is for more than ten years we have had to live with this problem and always had to be one step ahead of these agents of Bukit Aman. And we did not trust even the top party leadership because all were suspects as far as we were concerned.

So who is Zulkifli Noordin? He is not even of that level I would call a top party leader. And if we do not trust the top party leadership and suspect the top party leadership of being police and/or Umno spies and agents, what more a person like Zul Noordin?

So, freedom of speech is fine. Democracy is fine. And we should not block anyone from exercising his or her right of expression. But was Zul merely doing this? Or is there something more sinister to what he is doing?

The late PAS President did not trust him. We too never trusted him since his second ISA detention because our sources in Bukit Aman told us he had been ‘turned’.

I would urge Anwar Ibrahim to exercise caution. Anwar sat in jail from 1998 to 2004. So he did not have to manage the party office. I was in the party office right up to the end of 2004. So I know more than Anwar himself about what was going on in the party office and the problems we faced in always having to be one step ahead of plants and Trojan Horses.

And we say that Zul Noordin has a hidden agenda. His agenda is not to uphold Islam or to exercise his right of expressing his opinion. His agenda is to create a split in Pakatan Rakyat, in particular in Selangor, so that Najib Tun Razak can grab back the state as he plans to do. And he had planned to do that this month. And this month has only a few days left. So expect them to become more desperate.

Is Anwar that naive or stupid that he cannot see the false façade that Zul is wearing on his face? I think Anwar may need to spend a second term in the Sungai Buloh Prison to wake him up to the reality of what is going on in the real world.

By the way, Anwar, now do you believe that Saiful, the man Najib sent to work in the party office, is a plant? You have only one plant to worry about. We have had so many. But we ‘killed off’ all the plants they sent. We used them to mislead the enemy. You allowed that one plant called Saiful to kill you. Now you want to allow another plant called Zul Noordin to kill Pakatan Rakyat as well?

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64 comments:

alhusseyn said...

SILA BUAT PILIHAN ANDA KEATAS SURVEY di Blog Alhusseyn.Terima Kasih

Anonymous said...

Bila dah tak sehaluan,cam tu la,masa suka kentutpon kata bau gaharu,sekarang amacam?TB ni suatu hari akan jadi juga AT coming to be tunggu n lihat sahaja

Anonymous said...

Pada tuan TB.
Hang tolong bagi tau sat,apa sebab hang menentang 100% kerajaan perpaduan antara umno dan pas!!!!kalau boleh jawapan hang bertaraf master keataslano!Ada fakta dan alasan yang konkrit tanpa dipengaruhi emosi dan dendam pribadi!Boleh tuan Tb!!!Dok pikiaq juga pasai apa hang dan puak seangkatan hang jadi begini!

Anonymous said...

Zulfarkli has exposed himself to be an UMNo pariah long time ago..and the public dah lama tau si zul ni barua UMNO....and zul thinks he can outsmart Pakatan..but Pkatan leaders r smarter..1st of all,Zul antics n bla bla..macm "ptuih dlm angin aje"..and Anwar's " silence is actually "killing" this agitated,afllicted clown frm bandar baru kulim..and secondly,other factors need to be considered also..Zulfarkli is not the only sb/mole/umno pundek..true,they r trying their best to hancurkan pakatan,but pakatan still excists and gaining strength,n momemntum against all the odds..and it will be better and easier to monitor/watch the moles movements dri dalam..hendrawan,malaysia's badminton coach said today,malaysian want instant results,and he is right..malaysians by nature r an unthinking society,get highly agitated plus decades of instant maggie meeism has turned this country and her citizens into a zombi bodoland.."u r fired" method ala american dungu donald trump boleh pakai kah?..

Anonymous said...

The biggest danger that came and went,is the UG talks with UMNO..the Sultans also gave their thumbs up in this plot(they did it in order to safeguard thier interests lah)...dangers will continue to be there,but all of us must realise that Pakatan is holding FIRM despite the constant/daily attacks frm BN ..it's like David fighting Goliathlah.it's like the afghan tribesman whoopin the highly sofistikated dummy US soldiers lah..

yes said...

Assalamualaikum,
Ya Allah, ini kah orang Melayu di tahun 2010? Masih lagi umpat mengumpat, kata mengata. Tuduh menuduh. Seolah olah kita berseh seperti kain puteh.

Tak bolehkah seseorang itu berbeza pendapat?Seolah olah : Aku saja yang betul. akau saja yang pandai, semua kena ikut cakap aku.

Sedarlah wahai saudara seagama ku, kita semua akan di persoalkan tentang apa yang kita buat di dunia.

Anonymous said...

seagama?fooh...Malausia betui betui PHONEY LAND!On one side r the kiasu/materialist trying to be mat salleh/amerikaneeh/che guevara/forbes 500 ..on the other flank pulak r the ularmaks trying to be al unta al arabi..

Anonymous said...

Cultural atavism

The term atavism is sometimes also applied in the discussion of culture[8]. Some social scientists describe the return of older, "more primitive" tendencies (e.g., warlike attitudes, "clan identity," etc. -- anything suggesting the social and political atmosphere of thousands of years ago) as "atavistic." "Resurgent atavism" is a common name for the belief that people in the modern era are beginning to revert to ways of thinking and acting that are throwbacks to a former time. This is especially used by sociologists in reference to violence.

The neo-pagan subculture also uses this same terminology ("atavism" or "resurgent atavism") to describe how modern, Western countries are experiencing both the decline of Christianity and the rise of religious movements inspired by the pagan religions of centuries past. Some cite the rise of environmentalism, scientific inquiry, and liberalization of society as contributing to an increasingly secular society, one in which religious sentiments are more frequently tied with an appreciation of the physical world rather than set against it.[citation needed] Occasionally, the use of these terms in reference to "alternative" spirituality or in an occult context implies the use of violence to assert these changing religious views—for example, in the book Lords of Chaos a rash of church burnings across Scandinavia has been described as a part of this trend because many of the perpetrators were self-described "pagans" seeking to overthrow what they deemed to be centuries of religious oppression by Christianity.

Atavism is a key term in Joseph Schumpeter's explanation of World War I in 20th Century liberal Europe. He defends the liberal belief in international relations that an international society built on commerce will avoid war because of war's destructiveness and comparative cost. His reason for WWI is termed "Atavism," in which he claims the vestigial governments in Europe (the German Empire, Russian Empire, Ottoman Empire, and Austro-Hungarian Empire) pulled the liberal Europe into war, and that the liberal structure of the continent did not cause it. He used this idea to say that liberalism and commerce would continue to have a soothing effect in international relations, and that war would not arise in nations who are built on commercial ties.

Hunter S. Thompson used the phrase "atavistic endeavor" in many of the pieces he wrote and the phrase is still strongly associated with him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atavism

January 30, 2010 12:12 PM

Grand Marquis said...

Kesian. Yang sebenarnya desperate ialah puak-puak awak sampai menulis satu artikel untuk mendedahkan keburukan orang yang entah benar atau tidak.

TB tak ikut panduan al-Quran kah? Al-Quran suruh siasat berita supaya kita tidak gopoh dalam menjatuhkan hukuman yang kelak kita akan menyesal (masalahnya orang macam TB ni ada ke menyesal kalau di fitnah orang?).

Lebih malang, TB terpaksa ambil maklumat dari seorang penipu dan pemfitnah. Malah TB sendiri kata RPK telah berbohong tentang Islam.

Bagaimana kita ni boleh telan berita yang disampaikan oleh seorang yang telah dikatakan berbohong tentang Islam. Kalau dengan Allah pun dia bohong, apakah dia takkan bohong sesama manusia?

Nampaknya konsep matlamat menghalalkan cara yang TB amalkan sudah sampai ke tahap kronik.

Anonymous said...

//He defends the liberal belief in international relations that an international society built on commerce will avoid war //
kahkahlah..what a fool!..bar baric/pagan european /american conquest semuanya bersangkut paut dgn trade..why do u all think ameriacan r fighting in afghan,pakistan,iraq?pasai osama/al qaeda kah?semunya pasai minyak,$$$..according 2 mk.bhadrakumar,amerika has even started to berUG dgn burma military ootas,just to neutralise chinese influence/dominance in trade relations with that regime(Aung Sun Sue Kyii who?)..same thing appenin in this country..UMNo f*ks dont give a damn about politics and Malaysia..they only care about $$ and is quite willing to sell our country to a highest bidder 4 $$ ..their primitivism/paganism/retardation/atavism is at its peak..so, as long as UMNO masih ada, macam macm chaos akan terus berlaku..honestly spekading keadaan demands UMNO DUGULINGKAN,MALAYSIA DISELMATKAN!

Anonymous said...

Grand Moron 1 ke 2 ke..who cares..man,CIA's style kelentong word play tak lakulah..moreover RPK is still with UNNO bigwigs waat..Si tetek loose asmah,mahalanchau kutty,the inert/lifeless Kuli..me suspek , RPK's subtle plots have been thwarted punya pasai, si Raja kelentong tu dah cabot..kahkahkah.."let me rot in jail..throw away the keeeys..eeeeeeeee.."..kahakahkah

Anonymous said...

GM.
hang terbangpi indonesia sat!aku bimbang kat TB ni!lain macam maghah dia!!!Stress tahap super dah ni!!Takut sampai dah jadi sakit mental pulak!Zikir banyak-banyak...
dia dah pikiaq jauh kedepan!bukan setakat politik malaysia!dia dah menjangkau peringkat dunia pula!

Hang kata semua betui tuan TB!itu realitinya tapi!Mungkin kita perlu menanti PENYELAMAT utusan Allah yang akan menyelamatkan Umat Islam didunia ini!Bila!hanya Allah yang Mengetahuinya!!!!!Nak harap pejuang
yang ada Dimalaysia!tak b oleh harap!!nak harap pejuang islam didunia ini!belum termampu!Kita hanya mampu berdoa!Itu saja kekuatan yang kita ada setakatni!
Allah beri sumber minyak pada negara arab dan islam!tapi depa buat apa!depa buat Dubai World!Depa buat istana besaq!Orang kafir kalau dapat duit sebanyak itu,depa buat apa!depa bina senjata!depa bina teknologi!
Hang ingat peristiwa perang arab- Israel dulu!Mesir dah hampir menang!last sekali bila tenguk Mesir dan hampie menang!Depa sekat senjata kepada Mesir!bila tenguk islam hampir menang,us dan russia kembali bersatu!sebab apa,dendam perang saliB la!!!
Rumjusan:orang islam perlu bersatu!Itu sahaja!

Tulang Besi said...


TB tak ikut panduan al-Quran kah? Al-Quran suruh siasat berita supaya kita tidak gopoh dalam menjatuhkan hukuman yang kelak kita akan menyesal (masalahnya orang macam TB ni ada ke menyesal kalau di fitnah orang?).

Lebih malang, TB terpaksa ambil maklumat dari seorang penipu dan pemfitnah. Malah TB sendiri kata RPK telah berbohong tentang Islam.
.
Setakat rekod RPK dalam maklumat politik, beliau sentiasa tepat.

Boleh Grand Marquis tunjuk di mana maklumat beliau yang silap dan salah setakat ini?

GM tak perlu cakap pasal Al Quran dan Sunnah sebab parti yang GM sokong tu menolak Al Quran dan Sunnah.

Sebelum nak nasihat orang tengok diri sendiri dulu.

Tulang Besi said...


Tak bolehkah seseorang itu berbeza pendapat?Seolah olah : Aku saja yang betul. akau saja yang pandai, semua kena ikut cakap aku.
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Bagitau kat Zul Nordin macam tu

Anonymous said...

Grand marquis pun kaki tipu juga. Dia kata kat Selangor ada banyak pusat2 urut yang baru.

Tapi sampai hari ni kita tak nampak satu bukti dari GM

Grand Marquis said...

Kepada Anon 2.46pm, pergi baca sendiri di sini

Setakat rekod RPK dalam maklumat politik, beliau sentiasa tepat.

Boleh Grand Marquis tunjuk di mana maklumat beliau yang silap dan salah setakat ini?


Betul ke? Saya tengok banyak cerita-cerita beliau satu demi satu terbongkar sebagai satu penipuan.

Isu Najib dan Altantuya pun sama. Tengok sendiri di sini bagaimana reliablenya information dari RPK. Tu belum masuk tuduhan pada Rosmah berada ditempat pembunuhan sedangkan dah tersebar alabi yang Rosmah ada menghadiri majlis buka puasa pada malam tu.

Banyak sangat pembohongan RPK. Saya ingat lagi, ada seorang mamat tu, dia saja nak test MT. Dia ambil satu video tindakan polis luar negara pada suspect buat-buat hantar ke MT. Tengok-tengok, esoknya video itu keluar kata PDRM yang buat.

Tapi seperti biasalah TB, apa-apa yang menguntungkan anda, itulah yang benar.

GM tak perlu cakap pasal Al Quran dan Sunnah sebab parti yang GM sokong tu menolak Al Quran dan Sunnah.

Kenapa? Tak suka dengar dari Al-Quran ke? Bila sendiri pun tak ikut al-Quran, pandailah suruh orang jangan cakap pasal Al-Quran. Inikah sikap orang yang mengaku diri sebagai pejuang Islam? Padahal sikap anda pun 2x5 aje dengan orang yang anda tuduh tak ikut al-Quran.

Anonymous said...

GM tulen
1.Kalau nak bagi fakta dan petikan ,jangan ambik dari media yang puak TB tak percaya,cuba cari dari malaysia kini atau bernama atau harakah!!Kalau ambik dari media macam kosmo atau blogg pro mykmu,sampai mati puak TB akan tidak percaya walaupun ianya benar!!!
2.Dok pikiaq pasai apa,RPK laghi keluaq dari malaysia jika dia rasa dia dipihak yang benaq!Najib saman balik dia lari la pulak!!!macam anuar la pulak!Tangguh sana,tangguh sini!sumpah tak mau!Mau qazafla pulak!!Apa sebab mau qazaf!kerana tiada 4 saksi!!!Itu jee!
Macam oghang salah jeeee!!!!!Yang peguam islam(walaupun TB kata Tamil-tapi islamlajugaK),Sulaiman abdullah larilah pulak,tinggai puak karpal singh lapulak!Depa bukan tau dosa pahala!Janji kes menang!!Lawanla dulu anuar!Lawanla dulu RPK!Berani kerana benaq!Lari kerana salah la kot!!!!!
3.Aku tenguk cagha idup RPK ni lain macamje!!sembahyangka!!!!

Anonymous said...

..sambung sikit..
kalau tak sembahyang/atau diragui sembahyang atau tidak!tidak boleh diangkat sebagai saksi!Bila tak boleh diangkat sebagai saksi!kira dua beradik dengan tak boleh dipercayailah no!!

Tulang Besi said...


Isu Najib dan Altantuya pun sama. Tengok sendiri di sini bagaimana reliablenya information dari RPK. Tu belum masuk tuduhan pada Rosmah berada ditempat pembunuhan sedangkan dah tersebar alabi yang Rosmah ada menghadiri majlis buka puasa pada malam tu.
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Kahkahkah baru satu contoh, kao cakap banyak.

Aku baca artikel tu. RPK kata dia memang tak kenal sumber dia secara pribadi tapi dia tahu orang ni rapat dengan KuLi

Dan dia dapat maklumat terus dari orang ini.

Ia bukan bukti RPK berbohong?

Rocky Bru pun tak dapat buktikan dalam artikel tu. Cuma serkap jarang je dari si Rocky tu.

Tulang Besi said...

Dan GM, kao lagi penipu. Kao kata maklumat RPK banyak tipu, tapi kau bagi satu bukti je.

Itupun bukti kau tak betul.

Ertinya kao tiada bukti langsung atas tuduhan kao tu.

Sapa dia yang berbohong ni?

Tulang Besi said...


Kenapa? Tak suka dengar dari Al-Quran ke? Bila sendiri pun tak ikut al-Quran, pandailah suruh orang jangan cakap pasal Al-Quran. Inikah sikap orang yang mengaku diri sebagai pejuang Islam? Padahal sikap anda pun 2x5 aje dengan orang yang anda tuduh tak ikut al-Quran.
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Saya benci dengar penyokong tokeh judi dan arak bercerita pasal al Quran dan hadeeth.

Diri sendiri tak betul, nak betulkan orang lain.

Tulang Besi said...

Semua contoh yang dibawa GM pasal RPK datang dari pencacai2 UMNO yang mereka sendiri tidak dapat membuktikan kesalahan RPK.

Sudahlah GM, berhentilah sebar pembohongan kau.

Tulang Besi said...

Grand Marquis, kao ada cakap banyak rumah urut kat Selangor.

Mana bukti kao?

Ni kali kedua aku mintak.

Grand Marquis said...

hang mintak kali kedua? Maksudnya kali pertama hang mintak sebagai anon 2.46 la. Betul ke TB menyamar sebagai anon? Kalau betul malu la.

Orang dah bagi link, pergi la baca sendiri, jangan buat-buat tak nampak.

Pasal rpk tu, satu cukup la nak banyak mana lagi? Hukum islam apa yang hang pakai yang kata kena 10kali bohong baru kira fasik? Lagi satu, hang sendiri kata dia bohong pasal Islam, tak cukup lagi? Lagi pun, bohong dia bukan kecik punya bohong, ni tuduh 5-6 orang vvip bunuh orang. Hal anwar hang sibuk nak qazaf, tapi bab rpk ni hang main sokong aje, sebab kena kat puak lain. Inilah standard keadilan hang.

Bila hang tak berhukum dengan hukum al-quran, pandai aje hang buat alasan. Kalau nak kata sokong arak, hang pun sokong arak jugak sebab hang sokong ronnie liu yang halang HA yang nak ban penjualan arak kat tempat orang islam.

Lagi satu, bolehkah TB buktikan dimana yang GM ni kata GM penyokong UMNO? Tapi saya boleh buktikan yang TB sokong Ronnie Liu.

Anonymous said...

GM tulen.
Aku dah kata TB nipakai ilmu para wali atau pakai ilmu itam!!dia meresap jadi sapa-sapapun!Tapi dapat cam yang mana satu TB!Kalau ada nama dia!Gaya bahasa dia baik la sikit!!Tapi kalau dia meresap nama anoy!Loklaq!penuh cacaian!jahil dalam agama!Itu sahaja!!

Anonymous said...

..satu lagi GM.
Hang jangan serang tuan TB teruk sangat!Dia sedang mengalami krisis identiti yang teruk!:
1.nak jadi ahli pas tulen-dia pas sekular!puak pas ala hadi awang tak percaya kat dia!!
2.Masuk puak Endorgan!Majoriti ahli pas dimalaysia tak sokong depa!Tenguk apa jadi pada khalid samad!!Lani depa cuma dok harap pada nik aziz saja!Nik aziz turun!lingkupla puak endorgan ni!!
3.nak masuk PKR!Pkr tidak mempunyai hubungan yang signifikan dengan orang islam dan melayu!Ia berkisar dengan anuar saja!Sapa tentang!Jadi macam zul kulim!rasanya pada PRU 13!PKR takdak lagi kecuali yang cina atau india!!
4.Nak masuk umno!dah bakaq jambatan!tapi rais yatim dulupun bakaq jambatan juga!lani jadi pembodek kuat najib!
Nasib hanglah tuan TB oiii!!!!

Anonymous said...

..satu lagi,
blog tuan TB ni rasional!Tak macam blog TT,blog anuar brahim,blog che det,blog nik abduh dan lain-lain!!!komen sikit tak publish!!Tangtu aku puji tuan TB ni!!!!

Tulang Besi said...


January 30, 2010 6:27 PM
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Anonymous Grand Marquis said...

hang mintak kali kedua? Maksudnya kali pertama hang mintak sebagai anon 2.46 la. Betul ke TB menyamar sebagai anon? Kalau betul malu la.

Orang dah bagi link, pergi la baca sendiri, jangan buat-buat tak nampak.
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Iye ke? Aku pun tak sedar. Kadang2 aku guna anon sebab aku update pakai mobile phone. Jadi, susah nak log in as admin.

Tapi jarang2 la.,

Grand Marquis said...

Ok la. Kita berbaik sangka.

Kepada Anon 8.34pm, Tang tu I agree. Untuk bab tu we respect TB.

Anonymous said...

RPK and his pub n bistro "slow hands" hallucinate too much,n dunno how to factor in various variables..22 years of Mahataikism has turend this country into a ZOMBY LAND..but,there is light at the very bottom of the abyss..and that light has appeared in the form of a union of all those veteran warrior polticians who struggled(and suffered) for decaades,and that union is Pakatan..Pakatn is still an infant,and every day it faces hostile attacks frm puak dayus who think hell is heaven..now,is the time for ordinary folks to join hand with those vetaran and emerging warriors to save this country and time has now come to go beyond politics..

Tulang Besi said...

GM,

Boleh tak awak jangan mengelat. Sila buktikan tuduhan yang awak buat tu.

Tulang Besi said...

GM,

Boleh tak awak jangan mengelat. Sila buktikan tuduhan yang awak buat tu.

Grand Marquis said...

Bukti apa yang TB nak lagi? Nak bukti lagi RPK ni kaki tipu? Ni pi baca yang ni pulak

Grand Marquis said...

Ada perkembangan terbaru. Ada orang kata, tanda tangan kat surat ini adalah tanda tangan milik SU Agung UMNO, Datuk tengku Adnan.

Hai, entah siapa yang benar dalam hal ni.

Tu la Allah suruh kita siasat dulu sebelum jatuhkan hukuman. Tapi ada orang tak nak ikut, lepas tu memandai pula mengaku memperjuangkan al-Quran. Entah la. Dunia akhir zaman.

Tulang Besi said...

Kenapa GM? Dah terperangkap ke? Lain bukti orang mintak, lain yang kao cakap.

Sila bukti kan tuduhan awal yang kao pernah buat.

Pasal RPK, blog yang kao bagi tu semua aku tak kenal.

Identity pun diorang tak bagi. Habih tu mcmna kao ckp RPK bohong? Orang yang nafi tu pun tak dedah identiti dia.

Hahahaha kao cariklah bukti lain. Buleh tak?

Dah dua tuduhan kao tuduhan songsang.

Tulang Besi said...

When I revealed information regarding the RM200 million jetliner which Pak Lah bought for his personal use, it was denied and we were accused of lying. In fact, one of those who fed me this information and helped me with the technical details of the jetliner is an Umno Blogger, Zakir, who runs BigDogDotCom (http://bigdogdotcom.wordpress.com/). You can read his piece called Raja Petra the compulsive liar.

You see, Datuk Seri, I am not a technical person or a plane enthusiast. So I know very little about the technical specifications of aeroplanes. Zakir, however, is an expert on the matter and he helped put the report together. In fact, his Blog came out with the full report earlier, ahead of Malaysia Today. Now he calls me a compulsive liar?

ni lah dia "bukti si GM. Tuduhan dari bloger UMNO yang tidak stabil otaknya.

Tulang Besi said...

Grand Marquis said...

Ada perkembangan terbaru. Ada orang kata, tanda tangan kat surat ini adalah tanda tangan milik SU Agung UMNO, Datuk tengku Adnan.
.

Hahahahaha GM menipu lagi. Ni kali ketiga GM menipu.

konon ada org kata tengku adnan sign. Kau nak menipu apa lagi ni, GM.

Sah orang UMNO kaki menipu. Hahahahahahaha

Tulang Besi said...

GM, hang punya source tu penipu rupanya. Hang percaya kat source hang tu (ZAKIR) sebab hang pun penipu jugak:

However, on the 10th September, I got bored and decided to resurface. These MIC chaps were very disturbed and suggested I continue remaining in hiding. I did not listen to them though. On the afternoon of the 10th I went home. On the 11th I went to Bangsar for dinner and spotted two Special Branch officers monitoring me. I commented to the dinner crowd, “It looks like tomorrow they will come and take me”. Two of the chaps stood up and walked towards the Special Branch officers who quickly hightailed it out of there. The next day I was detained under the ISA.

Am I lying? I in fact told the police I was expecting them. When they asked why I said that, I related the story about the two Special Branch officers lurking around the Bangsar restaurant watching me while I was with a group of friends having dinner the night before. I also told them about the tip from the Umno Blogger, without mentioning his name though, plus the information from those MIC people who had links with the police.

Today, this same Umno man who was my source of information calls me a compulsive liar.
.

Grand Marquis said...

Apa yang terperangkapnya. Yang selalu terperangkap ialah hang la TB.

Yang lain aku tak miniat la. Tapi yang ni hang boleh pikir sendiri la:

I am amazed of his ability to make up stories, to justify himself. What intrigue me more is some gullible alternative media addicts actually believe him.

Back to the Special Branch officer who Raja Petra alleged passed me his SD, who is supposed to be my neighbour. For a Police officer to afford to live in my neighbourhood, he must be a very high ranking officer. At least a Deputy Director, which should be a Deputy Commissioner rank. So who is the high ranking Special Branch officer, who is my neighbour? Lets be fair and give Ungku the leeway; who might the high ranking Special Branch officer be, who is even in my neighbourhood?


Ni simple matter la. Tak kan Zakhir tu tak tau siapa neighbour dia? Antara RPK dan Zakhir tu, siapa yang lebih mengenali neighbourhood Zakhir?

Orang dah bagi bukti. Hang sendiri pun mengaku dia tipu pasal Islam, tapi hang butakan mata sebab nak menang debat. Nak bukti pasal rumah urut, pun saya dah bagi. Kalau tak percaya pergilah sue kosmo tu.

Ada lagi beberapa kes blog Malaysia Today menipu, yang paling aku tak boleh lupa ialah kes dia tuduh melulu PDRM layan suspect dengan teruk. Cuma saya dah tak dapat cari lagi link tu.

Pasal surat hang tu, saya kata, ada orang kata sign tu sign Tengku Adnan. Saya tak tau sebab saya tak pernah tengok sign dia. Tu yang saya kata entah siapa yang benar dalam hal ni.

Cuma TB sebagai penyampai berita kenalah siasat betul-betul dulu sebelum nak buat pertuduhan.

Jangan lupa, dalam Quran menyebut, Wahai orang-orang yang beriman, jika datang kepada kamu orang yang fasik yang membawa berita...

Orang yang membawa berita yang tak disahkan kebenaranya ialah orang yang Fasik.

Grand Marquis said...

Ha ni dah jumpa dah pasal isu polis pukul perogol yang mana ribuan pembaca (termasuk TB kot) ditipu hidup-hidup.

Nin dia

Baca juga ulasan isu di sini

Biasa la. Islam versi TB ala matlamat menghalalkan cara.

Anonymous said...

@matkeri Tahniah.Harus ditingkatkan kerana wacana mencakup isu reformasi-demokrasi,ekonomi adil,negara hukum
24 minutes ago from UberTwitter @orangasle Discip Com have begun deliberations
25 minutes ago from UberTwitter @matkeri Lebih utama-bakal pimpinan diasuh menghayati semangat perjuangan dan adab jamaah.
about 1 hour ago from UberTwitter @orangasle Understand your exasperation.But must we ignore the constitution and due process?
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Anonymous said...

haha..nachibai using same ol tacticslah to save his punqkoq by using trillion2 yg dirompak dri rakyat/khazanah negara..$300 million utk para hackers dri India,$$$$ utk membeli para bangkai bernyawa dlm Pakatan,more $$ utk Royal Stouts dan para gengster berlesen spt FRU/mat bon etc tec..well,sejarah menujukkan,bila rakyat mula berani melawan(para pelajar uni dah mulakan api revolusi!!)..haha,there is very lil a corrupt politukus regime can do 2 membenteras api reformasi...?how many can they shoot,maim n kill?how many can they humban ke dlm kamunting?Si haramjadah kakaktua kutty tried but failed!And najib will fail too..

Anonymous said...

Yb Azan dedahkan usaha Huang parti cinta msia;DJamaludin Jarjis mewakili umno utk pengaruh beliau tinggalkan pkr!jika dilayan,bayak habuan!
http://twitter.com/anwaribrahim

Anonymous said...

kahkahkaha..ther u r..terbukti..si penjilat punkoq lobby zionis terlibat dlm usaha utk membeli ap ap dri Pakatan..who knows,puak zionis kasi lui jugak

Anonymous said...

PKR:segerakan lapuran jkDisiplin yb Zul.Kritikan D Zahrain terhadap KM LGEng keterlaluan dan langgar muafakat PR.MPP bantah,ruj jk disiplin
http://twitter.com/anwaribrahim

Anonymous said...

Best thing is to fine them $$$..For sure JJ has offered them millions..harap harap the dispilin com fine thoise bangkai bernyawa the similar amount!!

Anonymous said...

If they leave,lompat,sue them in court!!

Anonymous said...

PKR leadership:No delay by Discip Com on yb Zul.Supports CM LGEng's record and ref DZahrain to discip com for his outburst against CM.
http://twitter.com/anwaribrahim

Anonymous said...

Specel Butoh(SB) Zul keluarlah..pi jadi toy boy hantu tetek..

Anonymous said...

Anwar reveals attempts to court PKR MPs
By Adib Zalkapli and Neville Spykerman
PETALING JAYA, Jan 31 - Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim today admitted that there were attempt to get PKR lawmakers to abandon the party by Chinese New Year, claiming that the move was made with the backing of Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak.

Anwar alleged that several MPs, including Indera Mahkota’s Azan Ismail and Yusmadi Yusof of Balik Pulau, have been contacted by a Parti Cinta Malaysia official Huan Cheng Guan and Malaysian Ambassador to the United States Datuk Seri Jamaluddin Jarjis, who urged them to leave PKR.

“Because they did not entertain, the amount of money was never discussed,” said Anwar after the PKR central committee meeting.

Both Azan and Yusmadi were at the four-hour meeting.

Anwar said he has yet to meet Bayan Baru MP Datuk Seri Zahrain Hashim, who is said to be leading a group of would-be defectors.

“I will only meet him next week but when I met him before the outburst I did not sense any unhappiness,” said Anwar.

Zahrain, who called Penang Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng “dictator” and “communist-minded”, has been referred to the PKR disciplinary committee.

Azan Ismail
Meanwhile Azan told reporters the offer was made soon after he resigned as Pahang PKR deputy chief.

“I received the calls and messages immediately after my announcement last week,” he said.

Azan added that he did not know the person who called but alleged that he received short text messages from Jamaluddin.

“I didn’t know at first but later I found out it was him.”

He added that he never entertained the calls once he knew the conversation was heading towards an “offer” for him to leave PKR.

“I ended the calls because there would be no benefit to either them or me,” he said.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/51464-anwar-reveals-attempts-to-court-pkr-mps

Tulang Besi said...

Kahkahkah si Zakir blogger UMNO ni penipu. Hari ni cakap lain besok cakap lain.

Itu kao punya rujukan, wahai Grand Marquis?

Patutlah kao ni tak senter?

Mana bukti kao kata kat Selangor ada banyak pusat urut?

Dah berapa kali mintak ni.

Tulang Besi said...

Kahkahkah Grand Marquis,

Si Oberfiend ni salah satu barua UMNO jugak.

Kita pun tak tau video tu dia punya ke tidak sebab rakaman Youtube tu sudah tidak wujud.

Grand Marquis said...

TB, TB...

Hang ni sebenarnya sudah kepanasan. Tulis pun dah tak menentu.

Orang dah bagi bukti kat sini tapi buat-buat tak nampak.

TB sendiri pun mengaku kat sini wujud pusat-pusat yang haram. Haram tak haram tu tak penting, yang penting, bertambah. Apa kerajaan Islam Selangor tak buat kerja?

Hang senang aje kata orang blogger penipu. Apa bukti hang. Yang raja petra tu terang-terang tipu hang kata reliable. Apa punya jenis orang hang ni?

Lepas tu, bila kena puak sendiri, senang-senang aje kata orang barua UMNO. Hang ada bukti ke. Pantang orang tegur puak hang, terus jadi barua UMNO. Ni adalah method yang digunakan oleh Bush kat orang Islam. Either you are with us or you are against us. TB pulak, either you agree with us or you are barua UMNO.

Adalah amat memalukan orang seperti anda ni cakap pasal keadilan kerana keadilan bagi awak adalah apa yang hanya sesuai dengan citarasa awak sahaja. Hang boleh putar macam manapun, tapi orang yang hati terbuka boleh nampak dengan jelas.

Tulang Besi said...

January 31, 2010 5:01 PM
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Blogger Grand Marquis said...

TB, TB...

Hang ni sebenarnya sudah kepanasan. Tulis pun dah tak menentu.

Orang dah bagi bukti kat sini tapi buat-buat tak nampak.

TB sendiri pun mengaku kat sini wujud pusat-pusat yang haram. Haram tak haram tu tak penting, yang penting, bertambah. Apa kerajaan Islam Selangor tak buat kerja?
.

GM, GM. Kenapa banyak sangat alasan. Benda aku mintak simpel aje. SILA BERI BUKTI.

Artikel KOSMO kau tu TAK BAGI SATU BUKTI PUN.

Cuma buat tuduhan rambang. ALAMAT pun dia tak berani bagi. GAMBAR pun takda.

Jadi, untuk membuktikan aku kepanasan, SILA BAWA BUKTI YANG KONKRIT.

Itu sahaja aku mintak.

Kalau besok kau tak bagi bukti, SAHLAH KAU NI KETURUNAN PEMBOHONG DAN PENIPU.

Tulang Besi said...

Kao tanya sapa yang baca artikel KOSMO tu, dia akan bagitau kao artikel tu taraf khabar angin je.

Hahahahaha itu kao cakap bukti. Kau ni pelawak la GM

Grand Marquis said...

Terpulang la engkau TB. I don't have to proof anything to you. Apa yang u nak I bagi. Tapi kalau hang dah tak nak terima apa boleh buat. Biarlah anda live in your own denial.

Hang nak cakap keturunan aku pembohong ke apa ke suka hati engkau. It doesn't change anything. Hanya sedapkan diri engkau sendiri aje. Cuma hang menunjukkan satu lagi kejahilan tentang Islam. Baca sendiri hadith dibawah dan hang pikir la sama ada hang ni ikut hukum Islam tak. Amat memalukan sekali orang seperti anda ni cakap tentang Islam kerana ternyata anda ni hanya mengikut nafsu.

Dari Rasulullah S.A.W. “Termasuk dosa besar adalah seseorang mencaci kedua orang tuanya.” (Para shahabat) berkata: ‘Ya Rasulullah, apakah seseorang (tega) mencaci kedua orang tuanya?’ Rasulullah Shallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam menjawab: ‘Iya. (Yaitu dengan cara) dia mencaci bapak orang lain lalu orang lain itu membalas mencaci bapaknya, dia mencaci ibu orang lain kemudian orang itu balas mencaci ibunya [HR. Al-Imam Al-Bukhari no. 5516 dan Muslim no. 6243]

Tulang Besi said...

January 31, 2010 9:20 PM
Blogger Grand Marquis said...

Terpulang la engkau TB. I don't have to proof anything to you. Apa yang u nak I bagi. Tapi kalau hang dah tak nak terima apa boleh buat. Biarlah anda live in your own denial.
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Haa ini bukti kao pembohong. Kao ngaku takda bukti tapi kao terus buat tuduhan.

Inilah dia perangai orang UMNO.

Grand Marquis said...

TB, cara hang ni macam budak kecil. Minta bukti, orang bagi bukti, buat-buat tak nampak dan tak nak terima.

Lepas tu menyorak pada diri sendiri gembira kononnya diri sendiri dah menang.

Kalau kemenangan itu penting sangat untuk anda, ambil la. Asalkan engkau bahagia.

Tulang Besi said...

TB, cara hang ni macam budak kecil. Minta bukti, orang bagi bukti, buat-buat tak nampak dan tak nak terima.

Lepas tu menyorak pada diri sendiri gembira kononnya diri sendiri dah menang.

Kalau kemenangan itu penting sangat untuk anda, ambil la. Asalkan engkau bahagia.
.

Bukti apa hang bagi? Keratan akhbar milik UMNO kau panggil bukti?

Apa punya rendah pemikiran kao ni. Patutlah kao senang kena tipu dengan UMNO.

ahmad said...

Baruah yang pada satuy ketika menyamar sbgai blogger rakyat SiMamat Rocky Bru sekarang dah dapat Datukship. Pundek lu!

BARUAH BARUAH BARUAH UMNO!

Grand Marquis said...

Ya. Roslan SMS al PAS pun tipu.

Mufti Selangor pun tipu.

Yang tak tipu cuma TB, ataupun TB menipu diri sendiri.

Tak de siapa boleh paksa hang tak nak percaya kat kosmo. Tapi kalau hang anak jantan dan nak buktikan kosmo tipu, hang pi la saman kosmo. Baru yang layak kata saya tak bagi bukti.

Kalau hang tak berani saman kosmo, bererti, saya dah bagi bukti, cuma hang aje tak nak terima.

Anonymous said...

Grand moron tak tipu..dia tak boleh tipu sebab k0te mahataikk selalu dlm mulut dia....oooogghhrkkk..kahkahkah

Anonymous said...

"What’s the point of Anwar being on the outside if he does nothing? Better he go to jail. At least the opposition can benefit from it. That is what it has been reduced to. Anwar is more an asset dead than alive."
Raja Pundekputra Kelentong Kamaruddin

help help..Call the exorcist..cepat..jangan lamabat..kepala RPK dah pusing 360degrees..kahkahkahkah

Anonymous said...

Ari e2, Raja Biawak kelantong Kamarduddin ciakap dia dah "kill kill" UMNo moles..how come Zahrain,zulfarkli,asam jawa ali masih idup..ek?..kahkahkahkah

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